[ Another breath. ]

Before the boat I couldn't really tell you who "Phoenix" was. Whoever I needed to be - I guess - to just get by.

To survive.

I didn't - [ He shrugs. ] Some stuff happened and it was easier to just not... feel anything. Or if I did to just let it be what people wanted to see or expected.

Quieter. Easier.

I don't know. I think it's just a thing I do - we do. In any life.